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Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pm
by Colonel
It's not terribly important, but you if want to, practice cutting the throttle
to idle on downwind abeam the runway threshold, and do a continuous,
gentle left-hand turn (a descending U) aiming to touch down a third of
the way down the runway. Angle of bank does not need to exceed 30
degrees.

As Peter suggests, stay slightly - but not ridiculously - high and sideslip
to get rid of excess energy.

It's actually an item on the Cdn CPL flight test. At least, it used to be?

The trick about it, is to learn to compensate for a strong wind, right
down the runway.

I don't recommend that people try to teach themselves heroics in
a hurry, down low. That's not going to end well.

Peter might remember Tim Leslie (?) who had an engine failure in
a Harvard after takeoff at Gatineau, and was able to make the Magic
Turnback and land on the runway. Most people would not have survived
that, but he was a retired military fighter test pilot and worked full time
at the NRC as a civilian test pilot and for fun was Chief Pilot for Mikey at
Vintage Wings. Pilots like that with a lifetime of stick & rudder flying are
as rare as hen's teeth in Canada. Odds are that you probably aren't one of
them. Pretending to be one could be painful.

So. Wings level. Close your eyes and tighten your shoulder harness. It
would be nice if you turned off the master and the fuel, but ...

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:24 am
by vanNostrum
cgzro wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:51 am
If you have to have an engine failure, CYND is a pretty good place to do it. Farmer's fields off both ends and several cuts through the fields to the North.
Yes, very nice airport, easy to get in and out, IIRC a bit of turbulence and some w/s with strong winds from the N
This happened in winter, a lot of snow on the ground and for a low time PPL an off airport landing wasn't ideal,
Flaps, sidesliping and luck allowed me to land on the last few hundred feet of the 6000' runway
From full power, the engine went to idle and no power very quickly.
The AME that checked it said it was " carburetor adjustment problem''
Had this happen next door at CYRO not sure how it may have gone.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:57 am
by Colonel
Love that runway at CYND. I think it was originally meant to be an airline reliever
for Ottawa (like Mirabel for Dorval) but we know how those stories turned out.

Formation takeoffs and landings at CYND with two L39's. Love that runway.

Looking over my right shoulder:

Image

Jesus, the hate from TC we got. Don't miss that.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:35 am
by vanNostrum
I think CYND was built as an alternative when the STOL program and testing of the
Microwave Landing System at Rockliffe ended

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:02 pm
by Colonel
Talk about timing. Got this in my email today.
Ahead of AirVenture 2021, Garmin released Smart Glide—the latest feature that’s part of the company’s Autonomi family of autonomous technologies, which also includes emergency Autoland. Smart Glide, which recommends a suitable airport that’s estimated to be within gliding range, also navigates to the terminal area so the pilot can execute the dead-stick landing.

Moreover, when interfaced with a Garmin autopilot, Smart Glide automatically engages the autopilot and pitches for the aircraft’s best-glide airspeed.
Have the aircraft navigate and fly the plane after an engine failure, because the pilot can't.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:57 pm
by Liquid_Charlie
the STOL program and testing of the
Microwave Landing System at Rockliffe ended
Another infamous canadian brain fart. Support your local D/H canada brain fart.

Ironically all those 2 otters went to TC and they disconnected all the stol gear so a highly skilled inspector could fly them and fly them they did into various hard objects.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:46 am
by vanNostrum
One of the antennas was still there not long ago,
not sure about the anemometer on top of a condo highrise near by.
An AME that worked at Rockliffe at the time told me the planes
were extensible modified with ground spoilers, de- icing equipment, auto feathering
better hydraulics and electrical.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:56 am
by Colonel
MLS, like car engines in airplanes, was the "wave of the future".

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:46 pm
by Liquid_Charlie
An AME that worked at Rockliffe at the time told me the planes
were extensible modified
They were indeed - so much so they required GPU support at all stops. Ship's batteries were not enough and they remained powered on the ground for turn arounds and A/C equipment.

I'm not sure about now but the -6 was not certified for STOL operations as far back as I can remember.

Re: Engine Failure

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:18 am
by Scudrunner
Back in 03 when I was in YPS Pemberton BC they still had an old topographic 3D model of the MLS approach in the terminal. That was going to make YPS into the Aspen KASE of Canada for Whistler skiers and such

The terminal they built was very a nice terminal, I played ball hockey in it while wait for the phone to ring.

If the pop machines still there put a buck in and press the out of order button for beer.