[color=#ff0000][font=lucida grande][size=16px]They should be held accountable for either allowing a culture of intimidation in their company, or just plain incompetence.[/size][/font][/color]
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[color=#ff0000][font=lucida grande][size=16px]This young pilot is gone forever, these people should be tried in court and if convicted put in jail forever.[/size][/font][/color]
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[color=#ff0000][font=lucida grande][size=16px]Chuck Ellsworth.[/size][/font][/color]
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[color=#000080][font=lucida grande][size=16px]The above is what I said.[/size][/font][/color]
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[color=#000080][font=lucida grande][size=16px]I spent years learning how the legal system works and I stand by the above ...[/size][/font][/color]
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[quote]This young pilot is gone forever[/quote]
Chuck: I have become convinced over the years
that no one really gives a shit if you crash, bend
tin or injure or kill your passengers. Just a "learning
experience" to talk about at your interview.
What matters is pleasing Transport through
regulatory compliance. All else is nonsense in
this brave new world.
Chuck: I have become convinced over the years
that no one really gives a shit if you crash, bend
tin or injure or kill your passengers. Just a "learning
experience" to talk about at your interview.
What matters is pleasing Transport through
regulatory compliance. All else is nonsense in
this brave new world.
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I was really hoping for a good outcome when I read the plane had been located intact. Another pilot dies too young, just sad that is all I can really say.
Fly safe everyone I hate this part of flying.
Fly safe everyone I hate this part of flying.
[quote]What matters is pleasing Transport through regulatory compliance. [/quote]
If it were that simple it would be bearable. The problem is they ignore most of the important regulatory issues and instead focus on the most senseless paper shuffling crap imaginable and if you don't get down on your knees and blow them they will spend tens of thousands of your tax money destroying yo
Regardless of how illegal their actions are they will defend their people right to the top, and the higher you go in their structure the more morally corrupt they become.
Just imagine the money they spent fucking you and me over.
edited by Scud for font size - Sorry thought I had fixed that doh!
If it were that simple it would be bearable. The problem is they ignore most of the important regulatory issues and instead focus on the most senseless paper shuffling crap imaginable and if you don't get down on your knees and blow them they will spend tens of thousands of your tax money destroying yo
Regardless of how illegal their actions are they will defend their people right to the top, and the higher you go in their structure the more morally corrupt they become.
Just imagine the money they spent fucking you and me over.
edited by Scud for font size - Sorry thought I had fixed that doh!
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from a young pilot:
[quote]how difficult it is to say no, even though [u]you know you should[/u], but what a relief it is [b]when someone else makes the decision for you[/b][/quote]
Words fail me. It's your job to say "no", even
(and especially!) when some @sshole is screaming
at you to go, and that you will be fired if you
don't, because Transport says it's legal.
Tell him the keys are in it (ha ha) and he can
fly the trip - and leave.
This is what a [b]BAD PERSON[/b] does. You know,
one that's still alive when he's old.
I've mentioned here before that the two most
dangerous things I have done in an airplane -
and they were terrifying - were done at the
insistence of two different TC Inspectors.
TC does not provide safety. TC does not
care about safety. TC provides a regulatory
structure which benefits TC.
Learn that lesson well.
[quote]how difficult it is to say no, even though [u]you know you should[/u], but what a relief it is [b]when someone else makes the decision for you[/b][/quote]
Words fail me. It's your job to say "no", even
(and especially!) when some @sshole is screaming
at you to go, and that you will be fired if you
don't, because Transport says it's legal.
Tell him the keys are in it (ha ha) and he can
fly the trip - and leave.
This is what a [b]BAD PERSON[/b] does. You know,
one that's still alive when he's old.
I've mentioned here before that the two most
dangerous things I have done in an airplane -
and they were terrifying - were done at the
insistence of two different TC Inspectors.
TC does not provide safety. TC does not
care about safety. TC provides a regulatory
structure which benefits TC.
Learn that lesson well.
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[quote]Tell him the keys are in it, and he can fly it, and leave.[/quote]
Damn words directly out of my book
Damn words directly out of my book
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[font=Verdana]Looks like icing again. Or at least as a major contributor then CFIT into the higher terrain. Pretty tough that another young man is gone. Just say no.[/font]
I like where you're coming from there Charles. Someone with some clout should have been around to shut'er down.
Doc and Colonel too with the just say no stance.
Listen up kids. This stuff saves lives.
I like where you're coming from there Charles. Someone with some clout should have been around to shut'er down.
Doc and Colonel too with the just say no stance.
Listen up kids. This stuff saves lives.
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[quote]Doc and Colonel too with the just say no stance[/quote]
I keep telling people, that if you haven't been fired
at least twice and lost your licence at least once,
you just aren't having any fun.
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But seriously folks, you're going to go through a lot of pilot
jobs in your life. What's one more?
I don't mean to be a downer, but after a few decades you
will notice:
- all of your friends are dead
- all of the airplanes you flew are crashed
- all of the companies you worked for are bankrupt
With age comes aches, pains and erectile dysfunction,
but in return you get perspective. Not sure it's a good
trade, but when someone threatens to fire you, tell him
that you've been fired from much better places than this!
Also, take pictures and staple them into your logbook.
Decades from now, you will treasure them.
I keep telling people, that if you haven't been fired
at least twice and lost your licence at least once,
you just aren't having any fun.
[img width=500 height=333][/img]
But seriously folks, you're going to go through a lot of pilot
jobs in your life. What's one more?
I don't mean to be a downer, but after a few decades you
will notice:
- all of your friends are dead
- all of the airplanes you flew are crashed
- all of the companies you worked for are bankrupt
With age comes aches, pains and erectile dysfunction,
but in return you get perspective. Not sure it's a good
trade, but when someone threatens to fire you, tell him
that you've been fired from much better places than this!
Also, take pictures and staple them into your logbook.
Decades from now, you will treasure them.
A lot of people in this new warm fuzzy society don't like the way I express my feelings on this subject.
So lets look at how fucked up it really is.
It takes years and thousands of dollars of paper work crap with T.C. to get the permission to work in this industry...
...remember we are the economic engine that supports these drones in those government cubicles, then after you finally get their permission to actually start flying you can then go out and find young people whose only dream is to fly for a living and pay them slave wages to work under intimidation to fly regardless of the weather.
When their dream turns into eternal sleep all the blame is put on the young inexperienced kid who could not say no.
The accountable executive /'s .......they never had the slightest idea about what was going on.
The operations manager.......no idea of what was going on.
The chief pilot.....................no idea of what was going on.
And then there is the mindset who say " He died doing what he loved "
That is a fucked up system, enabled by fucked up thinking.
So lets look at how fucked up it really is.
It takes years and thousands of dollars of paper work crap with T.C. to get the permission to work in this industry...
...remember we are the economic engine that supports these drones in those government cubicles, then after you finally get their permission to actually start flying you can then go out and find young people whose only dream is to fly for a living and pay them slave wages to work under intimidation to fly regardless of the weather.
When their dream turns into eternal sleep all the blame is put on the young inexperienced kid who could not say no.
The accountable executive /'s .......they never had the slightest idea about what was going on.
The operations manager.......no idea of what was going on.
The chief pilot.....................no idea of what was going on.
And then there is the mindset who say " He died doing what he loved "
That is a fucked up system, enabled by fucked up thinking.
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